MINUTES
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
DECEMBER 19, 2011
TABLE OF CONTENTS PAGE NO.
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
Announcements/Comments Page 2
Under New Business
D'Angelo Automotive
1104 North Jefferson Page 2-4
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS
Election of Officers Page 4
Review/Approve P & Z
Meeting Dates for 2012 Page 4
Review/Approve City Council
Meeting Dates for 2012 Page 4-5
Installation of Electric Poles Page 5
Trash Enclosures Page 5
KB Electric Page 5
Child Daycare Centers Page 5
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
The Planning and Zoning Commission for the City of Florissant met at the Florissant City Hall Council Chambers on Monday, December 19, 2011 at 7:00 p.m., with Jane Boyle presiding.
On roll call the following members were present: Jane Boyle, Daniel Call, Jim Hessel, Paul Stock, Dick Weller and Lee Baranowski. Also present was Julia Bennett, Court Reporter and Phil Lum, Building Commissioner.
A quorum being present the Chair declared the Planning and Zoning Commission was in session for the transaction of business.
ANNOUNCEMENTS/COMMENTS
Commissioner Boyle stated that the next order of business would be approval of the minutes for the November 21, 2011 meeting. Jim Hessel stated that page 3 which states "John Hessel," should be amended to read "Jim Hessel". Phil Lum stated that page 8, which states "so the Special Use Permit was approved administratively after it was agreed to by both parties," should be amended to read, "so permission was given administratively after it was agreed to by both parties". A motion to approve the minutes as amended was made by Paul Stock and seconded by Jim Hessel. All parties concur and the motion carried.
NEW BUSINESS:
Item 1 1104 North Jefferson
PZ121911-1 D'Angelo Automotive
RECOMMENDED APPROVAL - Ward 6
Request Recommended Approval for
A Special Use Permit to Sell Used Cars.
Zoned B-3
The Chair stated Item Number One on the Agenda, D'Angelo Automotive located at 1104 North Jefferson; request recommended approval for a Special Use Permit to sell used cars.
John D'Angelo appeared before the Commission and stated that he has been at this location for 27 years where his primary source of business is auto repair. The Petitioner currently holds a St. Charles County Dealer's License which he would like to have registered with the City of Florissant. The transfer of this license will provide Mr. D'Angelo with the opportunity to remain competitive by purchasing and selling
cars upon request. He stated that no more than four cars will be stored on the lot at any given time.
Jane Boyle asked the Petitioner where the cars would be stored? Mr. D'Angelo illustrated an area on the diagram that would be visible from Lindbergh. Ms. Boyle asked if the parking area from Jefferson to Lafayette was primarily for customers and staff? Mr. D'Angelo stated that it was. Ms. Boyle questioned whether any signage would be displayed for the used cars? Mr. D'Angelo stated that one of the requirements for his license is that he must have a sign. Therefore his intent is to add "And Sales" under his current sign.
Lee Baranowski stated that as long as there were no more than six cars in the designated area he had no problem with the Petitioner's request.
Dick Weller asked the Petitioner which sign would contain "And Sales"? Mr. D'Angelo stated that it would be added to the smaller sign. Mr. Weller asked if the "And Sales" would also be neon? Mr. D'Angelo stated that it did not have to be, as long as it was compatible with the existing sign.
Jim Hessel asked Mr. Lum if the Petitioner needed permission to add "And Sales" to the existing sign? Mr. Lum stated that the Petitioner needed to obtain a Sign Permit.
Mr. Hessel asked the Petitioner if he would be amenable to the Commission placing a restriction on the number of cars that could be stored on the lot at any given time? Mr. D'Angelo stated that he would be.
Phil Lum informed Mr. Hessel that the Petitioner's drawing identifies four parking spaces to be used for this purpose. He noted that the Special Use Permit, which includes the Petitioner's drawing, would be used by staff to conduct annual inspections of the business.
Dick Weller stated that the drawing appears to display eight spaces for used cars, and if that is the case, then the Petitioner should be allowed to store eight cars.
Phil Lum stated that he had prepared the sketch to determine the total maximum possible spaces on the site. And while his report reflects that the total parking required is twenty-eight, if every space is filled there could be seventy cars on the lot.
Jim Hessel stated that he had no problem with the exact number that could be store simply that in his opinion the recommendation and Special Use Permit should include a specific number.
Lee Baranowski suggested that the language for the recommendation state "Not to exceed eight cars".
Jane Boyle asked if there were any further questions or comments to the Petitioner? Being no further questions or comments, Jane Boyle made a motion to recommend approval of a Special Use Permit for the sale of used cars for the property located at 1104 North Jefferson; D'Angelo Automotive, with the following stipulation: that at any given time the storage of used cars for sale shall not exceed eight. Seconded by Paul Stock. On roll call the Commission voted: Stock yes, Boyle yes, Call yes, Hessel yes, Weller yes and Baranowski yes. Motion carried.
MISCELLANEOUS BUSINESS
Item 2 Election of Officers
CHAIRMAN: Dick Weller nominated Jane Boyle as Chairman of the Planning and Zoning Commission. Seconded by
Daniel Call.
The nominations were closed, all parties concur and Jane Boyle is elected as Chair of the Planning and Zoning Commission.
VICE CHAIRMAN: Daniel Call nominated Paul Stock as Vice Chairman of the Planning and Zoning Commission. Seconded by Dick Weller.
The nominations were closed, all parties concur and Paul Stock is elected as Vice Chairman of the Planning and Zoning Commission.
SECRETARY: Daniel Call nominated Jim Hessel as Secretary of the Planning and Zoning Commission. Seconded by Dick Weller.
The nominations were closed, all parties concur and Jim Hessel is elected as Secretary of the Planning and Zoning Commission.
Item 3 Review/Approve P & Z Meeting Dates for 2012
Jane Boyle noted that the first Monday in January is a holiday and therefore suggested that the meeting be moved to Tuesday, January 3rd.
Jim Hessel made a motion to approve the schedule as amended. Seconded by Daniel Call. On roll call the Commission voted: Stock yes, Boyle yes, Call yes, Hessel yes, Weller yes and Baranowski yes. Motion carried.
Item 4 Review/Approve City Council Meeting Dates for 2012
Phil Lum informed the Commission that the dates where no Commissioner is identified as a representative were tentative meetings dates. However, they could be assigned to the new Commission member if the need arises.
Jane Boyle suggested that the schedule be approved pending the appointment of a new Commissioner.
Jim Hessel made a motion to approve the schedule as presented. Seconded by Dick Weller. All parties concur and the motion carried.
Lee Baranowski noted that his name had been omitted from serving as a representative at Council Meetings.
Phil Lum apologized for the misspelling of Commissioner Baranowski's name for the October meeting.
Item 5 Installation of Electric Poles
Dick Weller asked Mr. Lum if AmerenUE had to get permission from the City to install new wood electrical poles? Mr. Lum stated that they only needed permission if it involved a violation of the City's regulations or an easement. Mr. Weller stated that he had observed a couple of locations, specifically within parking lots, where in his opinion, the existing poles were unsightly. Mr. Lum suggested that Mr. Weller provide him with the specific locations for review.
Item 6 Trash Enclosures
Jim Hessel advised Mr. Lum that the dumpster located in the strip mall on the corner of Paddock and North Waterford Drive frequently sits next to the trash enclosure rather than inside of it. Mr. Lum noted that it was common problem usually created by the disposal service who fails to place the dumpster back inside of the enclosure.
Item 7 KB Electric
Lee Baranowski asked Mr. Lum how close KB's expansion could be to their property line? Mr. Lum stated that in this instance there was a zero setback on the property. He added that City staff had reviewed the expansion and found it to be within compliance.
Item 8 Child Daycare Centers
Paul Stock asked Commissioner Boyle for the status of the proposed ordinance for daycare centers. Ms. Boyle stated that her belief is that the proposal to prohibit child daycare centers from operating in strip malls was approved at the last meeting.
Jane Boyle asked if there were any further questions or comments? Being no further questions or comments, Paul Stock made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Seconded by Jane Boyle and the meeting as adjourned at 7:43 p.m.
